Comments on: Somin on Gary Johnson and Ron Paul: A Reply http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/ Property - Prosperity - Peace Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:59:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: facebook.com/jcgreene http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-2845 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:56:16 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-2845 The 14th Amendment issue.. The Bill of Rights DOES apply to the states.. the problem is that the due process requirements as laid out in the U.S. Constitution have been subverted due to the fact that we are allowing states to prosecute and be the plaintiff party in cases that are based around state laws. The way due process is SUPPOSED to work is that ALL cases in which a state shall be party.. original jurisdiction (the place where the case is FIRST heard) was supposed to go dircetly to the Supreme Court, at which point a defendant would have the ability to argue against the Constitutionality of a State law. If a federal judge agreed that the law was in violation of the Rights of the defendant according to the Bill of Rights, that law would be struck down as unconstitutional. Now, however, the states, through a legal manipulation known as “concurrent jurisdiction” have usurpe the system of due process and prosecute their own cases with “magistrates” that have no Federal/Constitutional jurisdiction, and so we are not able to argue based upon our Rights according to the Bill of Rights and state laws cannot, therefor, be challenged regarding their constitutionality. This is a HUGE issue that very few people understand or are even aware of.
If you doubt what I’m saying, read the Constitution.. Article 3, section 2, clause 2..

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By: Jamie Moor http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-2232 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:56:40 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-2232 Ilya Somin is a crackpot fake-libertarian; like about half of the people at Volokh (or Reason, for that matter).

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By: Aaron http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-2007 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:01:57 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-2007 Congressman Ron Paul recently expressed support for the Defense of Marriage Act, voted for a fence along the U.S.-Mexico border, and is an advocate of removing birthright citizenship from the Constitution. Governor Gary Johnson believes gay marriage is a state issue and supports gay civil unions. As a former border state Governor, he adamantly opposes a border fence and hopes to establish a temporary guest worker program and enforce current immigration laws to secure the border. Congressman Paul is among the most vocal critics of Israel in Congress, once charging that “Israel created Hamas” on the House floor and that Gaza is “almost like Concentration Camps”. Ron Paul also signed the federal pro-life pledge of the Susan B. Anthony List and voted to enact a sodomy law in Washington, DC in 1981. Johnson is clearly more libertarian. Ron Paul is a paleo-conservative.

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By: Jay http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-2006 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:07:27 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-2006 Don’t forget Johnson has come out in favor of the “fair” tax.

That is right, he thinks the government is entitled to a piece of every mutually beneficial trade and transaction.

Fuck that.

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By: Mitch http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-1926 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:57:35 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-1926 I call bullshit on this Ilya Somin. Let’s be honest here, this critique of Dr. Paul is clearly MUCH more an attempt to re-brand libertarianism than it is an honest defense of libertarian values. My guess is our entrenched political establishment is doing its best to mold a pragmatic semi-libertarian candidate in Gary Johnson to steal some of Dr. Paul’s votes and divert the attention of libertarian-minded voters toward someone they aren’t nearly as afraid of.

Perhaps I am being too cynical??

[Some inappropriate remarks were edited out of this comment. -- The Moderators]

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By: gregw http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-1897 Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:32:49 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-1897 @C. Wendt> I think it is strictly unlibertarian not to “slam on the brakes,” as I think Rothbard may have put it, wrt entitlements. However, I too support a gradual letdown. A lot of people have made plans counting on entitlements, and a phase out would give them time to make adjustments, and not cause a mass “step function” (dislocation(s)). (Hey, I was one of those people who used to think entitlements perfectly okay, and did (not) plan accordingly.)

I suppose a younger generation would say wrt SS “hey, I payed *some* in and get nothing back under your plan.” The politicians would have to sell it (and it would be true) by saying they will comparatively come out farther ahead with the phase out rather than simply leaving the current system in perpitude.

I think it is strictly non-libertarian as far as theory goes to not just terminate the whole thing immediately. However, I admit I have fears of this because of the mass dislocations resulting. Maybe I am not strictly speaking a libertarian. I don’t think it will happen anyway. For that matter, I don’t think Dr. Paul, or Gary Johnson will be elected, so maybe this is all jibber-jabber. Yet I cannot resist voting for Dr. Paul.

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By: OWN-the-NWO http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-1886 Sat, 28 May 2011 23:35:33 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-1886 Two seconds of reading this Somin guys vapid tripe and it’s clear we aren’t dealing with genuine philosophical arguments, but carefully crafted globalist psy-op propaganda.

Thanks for dissecting it for the layman.

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By: David R.Henderson http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-1885 Sat, 28 May 2011 14:46:26 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-1885 Dear Matt (if I may),
Nicely done. I had been wondering about this and it’s nice to see chapter and verse.

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By: Seth http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-1883 Sat, 28 May 2011 13:04:50 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-1883 Johnson also is squishy on foreign relations and foreign aid, he simply won’t go on record as saying we should cut off all aid to both Israel and her neighbors, that it is time for them all to stand on their own two feet and learn to work out their differences as adults on their own without the U.S. providing an allowance or acting as a parent to negotiate their squabbled.

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By: Hardy http://libertarianstandard.com/2011/05/25/somin-on-gary-johnson-and-ron-paul-a-reply/#comment-1882 Sat, 28 May 2011 11:26:29 +0000 http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=8534#comment-1882 Supporting keeping gitmo open is a separate issue from torture. Johnson is opposed to all torture see his website, see first debate, see other interviews. Hes for giving captives speedy trial.

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