<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Rush half wrong, Keith half right</title> <atom:link href="http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/08/rush-half-wrong-keith-half-right/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/08/rush-half-wrong-keith-half-right/</link> <description>Property - Prosperity - Peace</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:54:19 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: google.com/profiles/ar&#8230;</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/08/rush-half-wrong-keith-half-right/#comment-699</link> <dc:creator>google.com/profiles/ar&#8230;</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:30:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=3024#comment-699</guid> <description><![CDATA[Great essay. The one thing that you left out is that no other President would have been elected if they weren&#039;t white (if not because of the electorate, then because of their earlier opportunities and inherited power)--so why should we be surprized that the same is true for Obama? Also, it&#039;s hard to tell if the race-based support for Obama outweighed the race-based opposition to Obama.Another way to look at it is that America is racist, at least in the sense that Americans learn to be aware of racial categories. No broad social phenomenon can be independent of that fact.There&#039;s also the issue of &quot;race&quot; as a historical process (as you alluded to)-- America was broadly and officially racist until just 40-60 years ago. During that period, the &quot;races&quot; were forcibly separated. Now that &quot;we&quot; (by which I mean, the dominant groups in society) have abandoned that ideology, we are still dealing with the process of integration. When people complain about reverse racism, I think one of three things about them: they are playing the race card for personal advantage, they fetishize anti-racial ideals and ignore the historical process de-racializing America, or they are trying to whip up racial resentment for political advantage. I attribute that last (damnable) motive to the likes of Limbaugh and Buchanan--and many others.Finally, as you point out, there&#039;s that false ideal  of what elections are about -- elections are not about personal merit, they are about the group. They are fundamentally about group identity, whether that identity be based on nationality, party affiliation, locality, ideology, or ethnicity. Group identity is intimately tied up with symbolism. Furthermore, the voters don&#039;t really &quot;decide&quot; who will be President, they just make collection of symbolic acts (such as marking a ballot).Voting in fundamentally a symbolic act, so we would be wiser to vote based on considerations of &quot;how will this be perceived&quot; rather than viewing our  vote as the path to making a (poorly informed) decision about who is the best person for &quot;the job&quot;.As I wrote at the time: &lt;a href=&quot;http://freedomdemocrats.org/node/2986&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Symbolism for President!&lt;/a&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great essay. The one thing that you left out is that no other President would have been elected if they weren&#8217;t white (if not because of the electorate, then because of their earlier opportunities and inherited power)&#8211;so why should we be surprized that the same is true for Obama? Also, it&#8217;s hard to tell if the race-based support for Obama outweighed the race-based opposition to Obama.</p><p>Another way to look at it is that America is racist, at least in the sense that Americans learn to be aware of racial categories. No broad social phenomenon can be independent of that fact.</p><p>There&#8217;s also the issue of &#8220;race&#8221; as a historical process (as you alluded to)&#8211; America was broadly and officially racist until just 40-60 years ago. During that period, the &#8220;races&#8221; were forcibly separated. Now that &#8220;we&#8221; (by which I mean, the dominant groups in society) have abandoned that ideology, we are still dealing with the process of integration. When people complain about reverse racism, I think one of three things about them: they are playing the race card for personal advantage, they fetishize anti-racial ideals and ignore the historical process de-racializing America, or they are trying to whip up racial resentment for political advantage. I attribute that last (damnable) motive to the likes of Limbaugh and Buchanan&#8211;and many others.</p><p>Finally, as you point out, there&#8217;s that false ideal  of what elections are about &#8212; elections are not about personal merit, they are about the group. They are fundamentally about group identity, whether that identity be based on nationality, party affiliation, locality, ideology, or ethnicity. Group identity is intimately tied up with symbolism. Furthermore, the voters don&#8217;t really &#8220;decide&#8221; who will be President, they just make collection of symbolic acts (such as marking a ballot).</p><p>Voting in fundamentally a symbolic act, so we would be wiser to vote based on considerations of &#8220;how will this be perceived&#8221; rather than viewing our  vote as the path to making a (poorly informed) decision about who is the best person for &#8220;the job&#8221;.</p><p>As I wrote at the time: <a href="http://freedomdemocrats.org/node/2986" rel="nofollow">Symbolism for President!</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ka1igu1a</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/07/08/rush-half-wrong-keith-half-right/#comment-641</link> <dc:creator>ka1igu1a</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:50:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=3024#comment-641</guid> <description><![CDATA[One can only laugh at Limbaugh, noting he would be rotting in jail for about 20 years if he had a politically correct skin tone.Olbermann has proven himself not be the reincarnation of  Edward R. Murrow; maybe Edward R. Murrow&#039;s sock puppet.Both of these guys get paid to delegitimize political enemies, and we are  informed by their collective entertainment that American political legitimacy is a struggle to the death between subversive socialists and subversive racists. Hooray for Democracy. Give them each a megaphone, they are allies of radical libertarianism.Don&#039;t misconstrue the fact  of the 50% bad comedy and 50% bad drama that each bring to the table with a 50% right narrative. It&#039;s a 100% wrong farce.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can only laugh at Limbaugh, noting he would be rotting in jail for about 20 years if he had a politically correct skin tone.</p><p>Olbermann has proven himself not be the reincarnation of  Edward R. Murrow; maybe Edward R. Murrow&#8217;s sock puppet.</p><p>Both of these guys get paid to delegitimize political enemies, and we are  informed by their collective entertainment that American political legitimacy is a struggle to the death between subversive socialists and subversive racists. Hooray for Democracy. Give them each a megaphone, they are allies of radical libertarianism.</p><p>Don&#8217;t misconstrue the fact  of the 50% bad comedy and 50% bad drama that each bring to the table with a 50% right narrative. It&#8217;s a 100% wrong farce.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>