<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Libertarians regressing to unsound, and thus, unfair Economics</title> <atom:link href="http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/</link> <description>Property - Prosperity - Peace</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:54:19 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: francoistremblay</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/#comment-46</link> <dc:creator>francoistremblay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:37:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=179#comment-46</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, but this is not an analysis. You demonstrate no knowledge of any argument by any modern or classical libsoc, left-libertarian, or even just standard anarchist, thinker. (no, Marx was not an anarchist) You merely describe the capitalist arguments for exploiting the workers. Yes, we get that you don&#039;t believe in exploitation and that you&#039;re ok with usury as long as it&#039;s an &quot;exchange.&quot; This is nothing new, just the same old.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but this is not an analysis. You demonstrate no knowledge of any argument by any modern or classical libsoc, left-libertarian, or even just standard anarchist, thinker. (no, Marx was not an anarchist) You merely describe the capitalist arguments for exploiting the workers. Yes, we get that you don&#8217;t believe in exploitation and that you&#8217;re ok with usury as long as it&#8217;s an &#8220;exchange.&#8221; This is nothing new, just the same old.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anthony Gregory</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/#comment-37</link> <dc:creator>Anthony Gregory</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 21:12:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=179#comment-37</guid> <description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that&#039;s all they mean in opposing vertical integration. They might be okay with many people working on the chair, but they don&#039;t want anyone to have a hierarchical position over anyone else.I don&#039;t agree with them, but we must be fair. Anarcho-syndicalists are different from mutualists, who are different from left-Rothbardians.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s all they mean in opposing vertical integration. They might be okay with many people working on the chair, but they don&#8217;t want anyone to have a hierarchical position over anyone else.</p><p>I don&#8217;t agree with them, but we must be fair. Anarcho-syndicalists are different from mutualists, who are different from left-Rothbardians.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JuanFernandoCarpio</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/#comment-30</link> <dc:creator>JuanFernandoCarpio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 04:42:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=179#comment-30</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Libertarians regressing to unsound, and thus, unfair Economics http://shar.es/mrPBc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Libertarians regressing to unsound, and thus, unfair Economics <a href="http://shar.es/mrPBc" rel="nofollow">http://shar.es/mrPBc</a></span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Libertarian Standard</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/#comment-648</link> <dc:creator>Libertarian Standard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:25:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=179#comment-648</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New blogpost: The Libertarian Standard &gt; Libertarians regressing to unsound, and thus, unfair Economics &#124; http://bit.ly/abTicn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New blogpost: The Libertarian Standard &gt; Libertarians regressing to unsound, and thus, unfair Economics | <a href="http://bit.ly/abTicn" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/abTicn</a></span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David J. Heinrich</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/#comment-34</link> <dc:creator>David J. Heinrich</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:39:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=179#comment-34</guid> <description><![CDATA[Juan mentions was that left-libertarians have &quot;a distrust of the vertical division of labor&quot;. I think that this is worth emphasizing. They think that the entire process of say, making a finished chair, ought to be undertaken by one individual, from start to finish. They also tend to rely on idealist assumptions that free people, when given the chance to act of their own free will, never affirm as their preferences. A typical case of this is the anarcho-syndicalists, who want to abolish private property, and only have possession. Despite my disagreements with him, I must applaud Bryan Caplan&#039;s excellent article discussion this and other flaws of the anarcho-syndicalist position, &lt;a href=&quot;http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/spain.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Anarcho-Statists of Spain&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan mentions was that left-libertarians have &#8220;a distrust of the vertical division of labor&#8221;. I think that this is worth emphasizing. They think that the entire process of say, making a finished chair, ought to be undertaken by one individual, from start to finish. They also tend to rely on idealist assumptions that free people, when given the chance to act of their own free will, never affirm as their preferences. A typical case of this is the anarcho-syndicalists, who want to abolish private property, and only have possession. Despite my disagreements with him, I must applaud Bryan Caplan&#8217;s excellent article discussion this and other flaws of the anarcho-syndicalist position, <a href="http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/spain.htm" rel="nofollow"><em>The Anarcho-Statists of Spain</em></a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stephan Kinsella</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/#comment-33</link> <dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:31:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=179#comment-33</guid> <description><![CDATA[Juan, how much did Exxon pay you to write this post? :)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan, how much did Exxon pay you to write this post? <img src='http://libertarianstandard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anthony Gregory</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/#comment-32</link> <dc:creator>Anthony Gregory</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 00:00:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=179#comment-32</guid> <description><![CDATA[I think &quot;corporatism&quot; is a fine word to use. Rothbard certainly didn&#039;t shy away from it:http://www.google.com/search?q=Rothbard+corporatism+site%3Alewrockwell.com&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-aPlenty of plumbliners use it, as do plenty of capitalists and non-left-libertarians. It is a suitable and useful word to describe a type of interventionism, and also an implication of interventionism, that is not encapsulated by any other word I know of.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;corporatism&#8221; is a fine word to use. Rothbard certainly didn&#8217;t shy away from it:</p><p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Rothbard+corporatism+site%3Alewrockwell.com&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=Rothbard+corporatism+site%3Alewrockwell.com&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a</a></p><p>Plenty of plumbliners use it, as do plenty of capitalists and non-left-libertarians. It is a suitable and useful word to describe a type of interventionism, and also an implication of interventionism, that is not encapsulated by any other word I know of.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: melindakalee</title><link>http://libertarianstandard.com/2010/04/01/libertarians-regressing-to-unsound-and-thus-unfair-economics/#comment-31</link> <dc:creator>melindakalee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:21:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://libertarianstandard.com/?p=179#comment-31</guid> <description><![CDATA[In my opinion, the &quot;exchange theory&quot; is being tampered with. &quot;It is exchange (not labor but products accepted in the marketplace) Key Word products ACCEPTED in the market. And what exactly is accepted? Whatever is encouraged and recommended through the media? Who controls the Media? &quot;these companies are to some degree corrupted into serving two masters, the corporate welfare provider and the consumer.&quot; Whether you realize it or not, or whether you agree with it or not, the consumer is NOT a master. The consumer is also a slave to the corporate welfare master. The consumer is coerced into buying and selling the &quot;products accepted in the marketplace&quot; by the Corporate Welfare. Just look at the fast food industry. Is meat healthy? Is animal products healthy? Is milk healthy? Tests have proven that no, they are not, yet &quot;Corporate Welfare&quot; still sells the lie to the world. Farmers are no longer selling what they want. They are no longer farming animals.. they are factorizing them under the conditions of &quot;Corporate Welfare.&quot; And if they refuse to abide by these conditions.. they are toast! Just look at America&#039;s addiction to fast food. Something so extremely unhealthy.. something that can and probably will lead to their demise.. Is the fast food industry benefiting the Consumers? NO. The only people it is benefiting is Corporate Welfare.Thanks for the tag. I enjoyed your note. Hopefully I helped you see a little more from a Left-&quot;Libertarian&quot; point of view.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, the &#8220;exchange theory&#8221; is being tampered with. &#8220;It is exchange (not labor but products accepted in the marketplace) Key Word products ACCEPTED in the market. And what exactly is accepted? Whatever is encouraged and recommended through the media? Who controls the Media? &#8220;these companies are to some degree corrupted into serving two masters, the corporate welfare provider and the consumer.&#8221; Whether you realize it or not, or whether you agree with it or not, the consumer is NOT a master. The consumer is also a slave to the corporate welfare master. The consumer is coerced into buying and selling the &#8220;products accepted in the marketplace&#8221; by the Corporate Welfare. Just look at the fast food industry. Is meat healthy? Is animal products healthy? Is milk healthy? Tests have proven that no, they are not, yet &#8220;Corporate Welfare&#8221; still sells the lie to the world. Farmers are no longer selling what they want. They are no longer farming animals.. they are factorizing them under the conditions of &#8220;Corporate Welfare.&#8221; And if they refuse to abide by these conditions.. they are toast! Just look at America&#8217;s addiction to fast food. Something so extremely unhealthy.. something that can and probably will lead to their demise.. Is the fast food industry benefiting the Consumers? NO. The only people it is benefiting is Corporate Welfare.</p><p>Thanks for the tag. I enjoyed your note. Hopefully I helped you see a little more from a Left-&#8221;Libertarian&#8221; point of view.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>